(OT) General rants

[garhkal]

Wow.. Talk about being "Borked over". Was looking at a local site that lists people and places doing yard sales in the area, and saw one that was "a big indoor yard sale at XYZ place of worship", and though, YAY.. No need to get a blasted permit (which my town requires to do yard sales, go figure)..
So i tried calling Mon and Tues to find out what i needed to do prior, and left 4 different voice mails.. None garnered a return call.

So today the day of, we packed the car and headed out an hour before hand, to give 25 min for travel time and a bit of time to set up.
Got there, saw the doors locked so waited for a little. Then one of the people from inside the church came out and saw us, and mentioned "We might still have some room inside, would you like me to get a cart so you can put your stuff on.. WE said, we would like him checking, but we would just be making a pile of our stuff outside for now, just in case.
4 min later he came back and said "we are too full up inside. And he stood by another female who came out and SHE said "but you could just set your stuff up here, and people can see both inside and out.."

So we did. Got our stuff set up, and waited..
THEN an hour later, the same guy and a different woman came out and told us "Sorry this is not a damn flee market, you are going to have to go". NOT EVEN A bloody apology for why not a single one of the 4 voice mails to their communications person or their building manager were returned, or for getting different answers to where/how we could set up.
Just a "You gotta go"..

I mean, if they didn't want us there, WHY tell us at first, "we can set up outside".??

AND if you are going to advertise for a "all can come yard sale", ANSWER the frakken phones for when someone calls to find out if they can come and set up!!

[Halaster-Blackcloak]

That warrants an ass kicking. I've decided that a good old fashioned ass kicking in the universal panacea for all mental and emotional problems. It's just rarely applied often enough and in a strong enough dose.

Yeah, I have a pet peeve with shit like that. So many people these days are never at their desk, never answer their phone, never return voice-mails and never return emails. Just slacker-jerks and losers who don't deserve to have the job they have. I've gotten so many people written up, yelled at, and fired over shit like this, I can't keep count. There's absolutely no excuse for this "inability" to communicate in the age of instant communication. A third grader these days literally has more access to instant communication with just about anyone on earth than any United States President had just 30-40 years ago.

It's just laziness.

I also hate people who are so pathetic they don't even try. Years ago I was going to barbecue and so I called a store to ask if they sold charcoal chimneys. It's used to light charcoal for the grill like this (although I used newspaper in the bottom, as most are designed to do):



I said: "Do you sell charcoal chimneys?"
He said: "Ummm...no." He sounded very unsure.
I said: "Do you know what a charcoal chimney is?"
He said: "No."
I got the manager on the line and asked him why he hired lazy, stupid people. The manager asked: "He's stupid because he didn't know what a charcoal chimney is?"
I said: "No. Two days ago, I didn't know what a charcoal chimney way. He's stupid because he claimed you didn't sell them even though he had no idea what it was. How hard would it be to ask 'What is a charcoal chimney?'

I then told the manager that to help cure his laziness and stupidity, I was going to buy the damned thing at a competitor's store ( the manager confirmed they sold it) and to take the lost sale out of his moron's paycheck. I have no tolerance for that shit!

[garhkal]

Well, coping this rant to other sites (inc Dragonsfoot) someone there mentioned that often he sees these same sort of "Community sales" and generally they get limited to those IN THAT community to selling.. So maybe that was part of it.. BUT i agree, the not one returned call, was a big Peeve.

BUT imo the worst part was where one of the workers inside (the one who came out, saw us and asked if we needed a cart to bring our stuff in) STOOD by while another woman (we later on learned was just there to shop) told us, "Well since there's no room inside as per the gentleman who offered the cart's use, why not just set up out here. Should be ok.". HE was the same guy who came out with a different woman later on and told us we had to close up and go.

IF that first woman (WHO HE STOOD BY, and heard tell us what she did) was NOT authorized to say that, Why didn't he correct her there and then, BEFORE we had hauled everything out of the car, and got set up?

OR if he went inside to check, WHY did it take 1 hour before someone came out to say "No you are not. But since you were told it was ok, we will let you get by for today"..

IMO it was just piss poor all around. ANd let's say even if they CALL ME and ask "we are having another one of our indoor sales next week, do you wish to participate" I would tell them to go to XYZ!...

[Halaster-Blackcloak]

If it were me and they called, I'd book all their openings, then show up with empty cardboard boxes so that they can't have a sale at all!

[garhkal]

Now onto a related but separate rant..

Is it me or are more and more municipalities getting Nickle and dimeing on people.. Such as my township which requires a Permit to even own a bike (regular peddle), permits to do yard sales.. Permits to do a block party etc..

[Halaster-Blackcloak]

It's everywhere. In Chicago, they now charge 7 cents for a freaking plastic shopping bag! For each and every bag you use. So if you have 4 bags of groceries, it's 28 cents. If you go to Whole Foods where they actually use real, decent, paper bags with handles, and if you want it double bagged, it's 4 cents. I bring my own bags now on principle, although I mainly shop in the suburbs where they don't tax for bags. If our jerk-off liberal mayor(s) hadn't sold off our parking rights and every other source of revenue he could find, and if they'd ship out the goddamned criminal aliens, the place wouldn't be hurting for money!

[garhkal]

It's everywhere. In Chicago, they now charge 7 cents for a freaking plastic shopping bag! For each and every bag you use. So if you have 4 bags of groceries, it's 28 cents. If you go to Whole Foods where they actually use real, decent, paper bags with handles, and if you want it double bagged, it's 4 cents. I bring my own bags now on principle, although I mainly shop in the suburbs where they don't tax for bags. If our jerk-off liberal mayor(s) hadn't sold off our parking rights and every other source of revenue he could find, and if they'd ship out the goddamned criminal aliens, the place wouldn't be hurting for money!

With how long it takes those damn plastic bags to breakdown in landfils, i can actually understand it, just like CA charges 5cents a can or bottle on soda and other drinks to GET you to recycle..

What i am on about is if you say want to do a yard sale, you need a permit.
Waht to change out the windows on your house, you need a permit
Want to own a bike to ride the local trails your taxes PAY FOR, you need a permit for the bike.
What to do X, even if its on your own property, you need a permit.. Heck, i heard one of my gaming buds who still lives out in CA, that one town near him is having peopel BUY permits to put in swing sets for your kids?!?!?!?!?

And why do you STILL live in Chi-raq??

[Halaster-Blackcloak]

Garhkal wrote:

With how long it takes those damn plastic bags to breakdown in landfils, i can actually understand it, just like CA charges 5cents a can or bottle on soda and other drinks to GET you to recycle..

I'm not fond of the plastic bags myself, but good lord, even if you get a tiny item and put it in one of those tiny paper bags the size of your hand - it costs 7 cents. It's just so pathetic that they found another way to rip people off to make more money so they can waste more money giving sanctuary to illegal aliens, padding the pockets of corrupt politicians, and buying more illegal red-light cameras to illegally ticket people to make more money to waste...

What i am on about is if you say want to do a yard sale, you need a permit.
Waht to change out the windows on your house, you need a permit
Want to own a bike to ride the local trails your taxes PAY FOR, you need a permit for the bike.
What to do X, even if its on your own property, you need a permit.. Heck, i heard one of my gaming buds who still lives out in CA, that one town near him is having peopel BUY permits to put in swing sets for your kids?!?!?!?!?

Yup. I read about it all the time - police ticketing children for having a lemonade stand without a permit. These things have gone to court, and the idiot cities have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to persecute (not prosecute, there's a difference) 10 year old children for not paying a $20 permit fee to sell 25 cent cups of lemonade. I tell you, America has gone f*cking insane. I'm actually writing a book about it (it's still in the early stages), I'm dead serious. The working title is:

Liberalism: The Psychological Plague of the 21st Century

Don't anyone steal that title. I'll sue!

It's gotten to the point where the government (at least under Obama, Trump has I believe already overturned this or is overturning it) via the EPA, claims the rights to all water on your property. People have already been sued/fined by the EPA for having barrels of rain water caught on their own property. A judge in Wisconsin ruled recently that a farmer did not have a right to drink the milk from a cow the farmer himself owned!

Insanity is everywhere.

And why do you STILL live in Chi-raq??

I'm addicted to the violence, and it's easier staying here than traveling overseas when I need a fix. Just kidding! I want to move. Just can't do it at the moment (too many factors involved right now) and even then I have to find a place I'd like to move to. I hate hot summers and I love snowy winters and that makes any such place hard to find. Jobs are always tricky too. As is finding a place that has jobs, the weather I prefer, and that isn't flooded with liberals, illegal aliens, gang bangers and terrorists. I'm working on setting up a training/consultation business so that should make it easier down the line. God how I despise this place!

[TigerStripedDog]

America has gone f*cking insane.

Amen. Though it isn't just America. The whole world is going insane. And it is going to get worse, and worse, and worse until it all goes up in flames. History repeats itself. Happened to the Romans, the Maya, and the Chinese (several times, on account of "the Chinese" actually being several distinct empires spanning thousands of years). No nation is immune. Sun rises, shines bright, and sets. And the end is always the same: tyranny, oppression of thought, denial of fundamental rights and truths, and destruction.

Tiger

[garhkal]

It's gotten to the point where the government (at least under Obama, Trump has I believe already overturned this or is overturning it) via the EPA, claims the rights to all water on your property. People have already been sued/fined by the EPA for having barrels of rain water caught on their own property. A judge in Wisconsin ruled recently that a farmer did not have a right to drink the milk from a cow the farmer himself owned!

Fut the whuk?? YOu can't drink the milk YOU get out of a cow YOU own?? That judge needs to be hung, drawn and quartered for that insane as hell decision.

PS got a link to a news story on it?

[Halaster-Blackcloak]

I agree totally. This country needs a revolution and I sense it's coming:

http://radio.foxnews.com/2011/10/06/jud ... -the-want/

[Halaster-Blackcloak]

TigerStripedDog wrote:

Amen. Though it isn't just America. The whole world is going insane. And it is going to get worse, and worse, and worse until it all goes up in flames. History repeats itself. Happened to the Romans, the Maya, and the Chinese (several times, on account of "the Chinese" actually being several distinct empires spanning thousands of years). No nation is immune. Sun rises, shines bright, and sets. And the end is always the same: tyranny, oppression of thought, denial of fundamental rights and truths, and destruction.

So true. I look at France and Germany and Sweden and I see people obsessed with national suicide. All those "poor immigrants" who are in reality fighting age Muslim men (notice how there are so few if any women or children when you see pics of them arriving?) who are engaging in hijrah migration attacks against the west. And the idiots let them in with open arms. We'll see if LePen wins in France this coming week. I sure hope so!

And now Poland and Hungary have said enough with these Muslim migrant subversives, we're not taking any more. So the EU basically declares war on those countries, in so many words. I warned them, don't mess with Poland. Ask the Nazis or the Soviets how that turned out in the end.

[garhkal]

I agree totally. This country needs a revolution and I sense it's coming:

http://radio.foxnews.com/2011/10/06/jud ... -the-want/

Actually, knowing several people when i grew up in the uk, who almost DIED from drinking unpasturized milk, along with several farmsteads that had to kill THEIR entire stock off, cause a neighbor's cow that the owners did NOT wish to kill (religious reasons), and which had TB and this cross contaminated the neighbor's stock, i can actually understand the judge's ruling..

That said, Would he object to someone say, making a raised garden bed and growing his or her own tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuces etc, and even handing some over to his neighbor?? Or would that be ok??

So true. I look at France and Germany and Sweden and I see people obsessed with national suicide. All those "poor immigrants" who are in reality fighting age Muslim men (notice how there are so few if any women or children when you see pics of them arriving?) who are engaging in hijrah migration attacks against the west. And the idiots let them in with open arms. We'll see if LePen wins in France this coming week. I sure hope so!

And to me the worst part of it, is when those 'migrants' get there, they start doing all they can to CHANGE the country they just moved into, to mirror the one they left. Bringing in Sharia law, mosques, and thir culture..
Or like some US cities have seen, Forced Genital mutilation of girls, 'honor' killings and the like. ALl in the name of their murderous death cult.

[Halaster-Blackcloak]

Garhkal wrote:

Actually, knowing several people when i grew up in the uk, who almost DIED from drinking unpasturized milk, along with several farmsteads that had to kill THEIR entire stock off, cause a neighbor's cow that the owners did NOT wish to kill (religious reasons), and which had TB and this cross contaminated the neighbor's stock, i can actually understand the judge's ruling..

I ended up doing a lot of research on it (admittedly for America only) and discovered that all the major outbreaks of illness in America in the past 90 years (actually from 1927 to 2006) has been from pasteurized milk. Illness from raw milk - actual, investigated and proven illness - is as rare as hen's teeth and even then it's usually just 1 or 2 people getting mildly ill. The largest outbreak of salmonella in American history is right near me, in a suburb of Chi-raq in 1985 I believe. There were 197,000 people affected, with 16,000 culture confirmed cases of people getting seriously ill and about a dozen killed from pasteurized milk. I've been drinking raw milk for years and years. Never got sick from it. No one I know of who drinks it ever has either. Here's some info I write up for the doctor I do research for:
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Here is an updated list of some of the documented outbreaks due to PASTEURIZED milk. By the way, the FDA allows 10 coliform per ml and up to 20,000 bacterial count per ml for PASTEURIZED milk (that comes to 75,708,200 dead bacteria per gallon!). Not only is Pasteurized milk a DEAD food, it has no immuno-defenses to fight pathogenic contamination. Pasteurized milk is NO guarantee, nor is it sterile. All of the pathogens attributed to raw milk have been found in PASTEURIZED milk and caused grave illnesses. Due to the centralized nature of this processed food, the outbreaks are much more pervasive.

Some Outbreaks Attributed to Pasteurized or Processed Milk

1927 - 5,002 cases, 533 deaths from Typhoid in Montreal, Canada
1945 - 1,492 cases for the year in the U.S.A.
1945 - 300 cases, 1 outbreak in Phoenix, Arizona.
1945 - Several outbreaks, 468 cases of gastroenteritis, 9 deaths, in Great Bend, Kansas.
1965 - Multi-state outbreak, 29 confirmed cases from Salmonella in powdered milk
1966 - 97 cases, all confirmed from Shigella flexneri in Florida
1975 - 49 cases, all confirmed from Salmonella newport at a Military base in Louisiana
1976 - 38 cases, all confirmed from Yersinia enterocolitica at a school in New York
1978 - 68 cases, 1 outbreak in Arizona from Salmonella typhimurium
1979 - 2,500 cases, children ages 2-7 , from Campylobacter, England and Wales
1982 - 17,000 + cases, 172 culture confirmed from Y. enterocolitica in Tennessee, Arkansas, and Mississippi, with over 100 hospitalized
1983 - 49 cases, 14 deaths from Listeria in Massachusetts (NOTE: Listeria survived pasteurization)
1984 -16 cases, all confirmed from S. typhimurium in Kentucky
1984 - 200 cases, first in a series of outbreaks starting in August, from S. typhimurium at one plant in Melrose Park, Illinois
1984 - November, second outbreak S. typhimurium at same plant in Melrose Park, Illinois
1985 - 197,000 cases, 16,284 culture confirmed from antimicrobial-resistant S.typhimurium at same plant in Melrose Park, Illinois, 2 deaths with probable cause for 12 others
1985 - 142 cases, 47 deaths including 19 stillbirths, 10 infant deaths from Listeria found in processed Mexican cheese in California (NOTE: the dairy that supplied the raw milk was vindicated – it was determined that the raw milk did NOT contain Listeria)
1985 - 860 pupils sickened by Staphylococcal enterotoxin in Meade County, Kentucky
1985 - contamination from cleaning supplies in Florida and California
1985 to 1991 - 56 cases, 2 deaths from hypervitaminosis D overfortification in Boston, Massachusetts
1986 - 33 cases, 1 outbreak from Campylobacter jejuni at a school in Vermont
1991 - 37 cases from S. typhimurium in chocolate milk in Michigan (documented by CSPI)
1993 - 3 cases culture confirmed in infants, from Salmonella Tennessee found in powdered milk formula, Tennessee and Canada
1994 - 45 cases, 11 culture confirmed from Listeria monocytogenes after pasteurization in Illinois
1994 - 4 cases from Bacillus cereus in Minnesota (documented by CSPI)
1994 - 18 cases, 11 culture confirmed from E.coli 0104:H21 in Helena, Montana
1994 - 105 cases, 3 outbreaks from E.Coli and Listeria in California
1994 - 72 cases, 1 death, 8 HUS cases, 3 resulting kidney transplants, West Lothian, Scotland
1994 - 69 cases from Listeria monocytogenes in chocolate milk multi-state (documented by CSPI)
1995 - 10 cases, all culture confirmed from Yersina enterocolitica after pasteurization in Vermont and New Hampshire
1996 - 19 cases of Salmonella spp. at Nevada school (documented by CSPI)
1997 - 3 cases from Shigella faecalis in Wisconsin (documented by CSPI)
1998 - 6 cases from Campylobacter jejuni in South Dakota
1998 - 3 cases from Campylobacter spp. In New York (documented by CSPI)
1998 - 2 cases from E. coli 0157:H7 in Maine (documented by CSPI)
1998 - 47 cases from Salmonella typhimurium in Massachusetts (documented by CSPI)
1999 - 114 cases, 88 culture confirmed, 3 children with HUS from E.coli in North Cumbria, England
2000 - 93 cases, 38 culture confirmed from Salmonella typhimurium after pasteurization in Pennsylvania and New Jersey
2000 - 14,700 cases from S. aureus and Bacillus cereus, Japan, low fat and powered milk
2002 - 116 cases from S. typhimurium at a school in Wyoming (documented by CSPI)
2002 - 52 cases from Norovirus at a school in Florida
2003 - 25 cases, all culture confirmed ( 18 children, 7 adults) from E.coli 0157 in Denmark
2004 - 100 cases from Salmonella Newport in California (documented by CSPI)
2006 - 1,314 cases from Campylobacter in California prisons

Totals for Pasteurized Milk Outbreaks
242,056 cases, 624 deaths

Listeria totals for Pasteurized Milk
305 cases, 61 deaths

[Halaster-Blackcloak]

Garhkal wrote:

And to me the worst part of it, is when those 'migrants' get there, they start doing all they can to CHANGE the country they just moved into, to mirror the one they left. Bringing in Sharia law, mosques, and thir culture..
Or like some US cities have seen, Forced Genital mutilation of girls, 'honor' killings and the like. ALl in the name of their murderous death cult.

I challenged Dr. Daniel Pipes at MEMRI to a public debate when he argued with me that there was a "moderate movement" in Islam. He cowered out of it and when I confronted him with irrefutable proof he was wrong, they banned me from the forum. Been there, done that!

Some snowflakes there also got triggered when I correctly and honestly pointed out that more people have been murdered in the name of Islam by Muslims in any given year that have ever been killed by Satanists who worship the Devil himself, throughout history. Turned a few stomachs too, when I posted pics of the gruesome acid attacks.